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   newsmakers and politicians; host Joe Scarborough.  

    January 15, 2010
    6:00 - 9:00am EST  

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"morning joe" starts right now. >> i think the toughest part is just how bad we feel for the people in the country that we're here to help and it makes us work as hard as we can to do what we can to help. always try to be optimistic. absolutely. until we have to go home. we'll keep on trying the whole time. >> good morning. welcome to "morning joe." joe scarborough with you, along with willie geist.
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mika brzezinski, not with us this morning. she is in connecticut. willie, a lot to talk about today. obviously, the tragedy in haiti. also some poll numbers out of massachusetts, really surprising. the president's numbers falling in other polls that are coming out over the past two days. something has been happening this past week politically internally while this tragedy in haiti goes on. the white house continuing a very aggressive response to this unprecedented tragedy in haiti and we'll be following that throughout the day. >> the big story, joe, still, as it was yesterday, all of the supplies, all of the relief, sitting in the airport and they can't get it in to the people's hands as minutes and hours tick away as people desperately need
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it. >> there are so many historical parallels regarding this logistical nightmare. i know in recent memory, there was time during katrina, which, again, you can't compare this and katrina. so many different things. you can't compare the misery the people of haiti live through, even in the best of times, compared to our conditions. but i remember going out to a high school in biloxi, while people in downtown in biloxi and going to a high school 15 minutes out and seeing stacks of supplies and food and being angered. this situation, the problem is 1,000 times as bad. >> it's a scale question. if you -- this is almost a mathematical matter. you think of the scale of the tragedy, the scope of the number of supplies that has to be moved and then the nearly complete lack of infrastructure within
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haiti. it's hard enough when we have interstates heading down into an area. you have not a lot of landing space. something that the united states can do here that no one else can do, this is now a naval operation. the united states navy is going to have to project themselves and try to help that way. but it is reminiscent of really depressing and sad pictures, but it's also the human factor. these are really hard operations. there is a reason the military is so large and often inefficient. and anyone with any experience of large organizations, there are sclerotic moments and that leads to people dying. >> there is a story out that president obama may be writing
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"newsweek's" cover story? >> yes. >> it's been a rough week. we haven't had anybody filing on time. federal office holders apparently have a hard time. the president is writing an essay for "newsweek" about why haiti matters. right now, we're in the middle of a very familiar and good ritual in american life. responding to the vivid, televised images of a terrible tragedy. we are texting money. the outpouring has begun, but what it will be like in ten days, what will it be like in a month? i promise you won't be talking about it at this hour. what is the national interest beyond sympathy for americans to help haitians. humanitarianism is not a foreign policy. >> we'll be talking about this much more also. the late-night wars. they are getting ugly.
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>> did you see jimmy kimmel on leno last night? >> i saw the crlip, it was brutal. >> we'll get tow that in a minute. we have the great norah o'donnell, joining us with john meacham. first, a look at today's top stories. we begin in haiti. officials say the next 24 hours will be critical for the estimated 3 million haitians in desperate need of food, medicine, and water. although supplies are poring in, there are big delays in getting help to those who need it and need it immediately. many of the city's roads are impassable and the main seaport is damaged, meaning the big ships that want to get in can't do that. crates are piling up as relief aid is arriving faster than can be unloaded and planes cannot leave because there is no fuel.
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the capitol entirely in ruin. the daunting task is to decide who needs the help the most? there are safety concerns as crowds are becoming increasingly frustrated and desperate. it's 2 1/2 days since the earthquake struck and we're just getting a since of the death toll. the red cross estimates as many as 50,000 people were, in fact, killed. we'll give you a warning as we head into the next story, some of the images are a bit graphic as we show you the morgue outside of the hospital, completely filled, so bodies being laid in piles outside. haiti's president says at least 7,000 bodies were buried in one mass grave alone. thousands of other victims are crowded into makeshift hospitals. the united states continues to spearhead the international response with president obama pledging $100 million in emergency aid and also enlisted the help of president clinton and george w. bush to lead the
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american relief effort. >> former president bush and i talked today. he agreed to help and do what me and his father did after the tsunami. america is in this for the long haul. i thank the president for his commitment. usaid and the american military, we're in this thing. >> first lady michelle obama taped a public service announcement yesterday on behalf of the red cross. americans have opened their wallets to help. visa and american express saying they are waiving fees on donations placed under credit cards. they came under fire for profiting from those contributions. some of the other headlines out there the first about the unfortunate politics of the american relief effort. with the obama administration urging americans to donate, rush limbaugh is calling for the exact opposite. he told listeners not to place
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contributions because president obama is using the crisis to boost political standing. he doubts the money given through the white house website will reach victims of the quake. now the white house is responding. >> i think in times of great crisis there, are always people who say really stupid things. to use the power of your pulpit to try to convince those not to help their brothers and sisters is sad. >> it is sad, isn't it? >> it is sad. after especially a few weeks ago i was lecturing people on the far left about wishing rush limbaugh ill, and most of the people on the left, including rachel maddow, i remember got out front, saying -- it doesn't matter whether we support this guy or not, let's show humanity,
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for rush limbaugh to show -- floorafte norah, no humanity after one of the worst disasters in recent memory is shocking and indefensible. i got slammed all day yesterday, because people on the right said, well -- and then they listed all these names of people on the left that were actually trying to use this for political reasons and necessithey are out but nothing quite as horrific of this. >> when you see pictures of thousands of bodies piled up in this country -- i mean, in haiti, to look at that should shock you, and you have to have a cold heart not to have some sympathy for those people. when there are reports that they are taking trucks through the city and picking up bodies in trucks to then put them in a dump in a mass grave in haiti. when americans are contributing millions and millions of dollars, it's truly
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heartbreaking. and this country -- the most wonderful thing, is that america is a wonderful, beautiful country and people have texted $10. we found ways so people can contribute $10 even though they are hurting at home. last night, $6 million that people have texted. that's wonderful. a great sign of humanity. that people pull together and care about the people of haiti. >> and american generosity as it has been with other disasters is truly overwhelming. the united states has pledged $100 million. and other nations have chipped in to donate supplies and money. it comes back to a responsibility that the united states will have to shoulder and it's out there and doing what it can, and i think this is really very much about people wanting
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to help and that -- that's the sort of human situation that we all face, and this is the tragedy. how can you -- we were covering the story for the last two days and yesterday we had an image of a woman who was -- who was about to give birth. i mean, sort of being shocked into labor pains and devastating and tragic to see this. today, we had some figures from haitian sources. one senior haitian senator saying perhaps as many as 500,000 people could have been killed. the haitian prime minister saying maybe 100,000. it's so chaotic, so difficult to assess exactly what's happened in this devastating tragedy. >> and if rush limbaugh believes that his listeners think that haiti is a country not connected to it i can tell you, 40,000 americans down there right now. a lot of them relief workers, and the vast majority of those,
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as i gathered through e-mails and calls are christians, even ang angelicals. people who listen to rush limbaugh. i can tell you a personal case. my wife has a friend who's mom has been missing for the past three, four days, and they finally found out last night that the red cross put her on the survival list after -- survivor list after they sought medical help. you look again. talk about pierre down stairs, we all in new york and in other cities know somebody who has family members in haiti. we are connected to haiti. >> in this city alone, there are estimates of as many as 400,000 haitian families live in new york city. the connection is pretty clear. >> and outside of port-au-prince, so, you know
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there, is definitely a connection in terms of not only geography, but also history. through the people as well. >> we'll get back to this story in a moment. >> it's pathetic what he said. >> other stories to tell you about. american officials are saying they are again stepping up airport secured amid new threats from al qaeda in yemen. officials are picking up new intelligence from yemen that hints th hint at more strikes there is an ongoing credible threat. reports from the associated press says the obama administration is considering a trial in washington for one of the most notorious detainees held at guantanamo bay. is he accused of masterminding the bali nightclub bombing that killed more than 200 people. one of several detainees being considered for trial in the nation's capital.
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spokesman for eric holder, attorney general, says no final decision has been made yesterday. the alleged ft. hood shooter awaits trial, another supervisors could be facing punishment. a pentagon authority faults as many as eight officers for not responding to the suspect's erratic behavior in the months prior to the shooting. major nidal hasan shot several at the army base. massachusetts a battleground state. the republican candidate for u.s. senate, scott brown, leading martha coakley by four points. that seat has been held by a democrat for decades, most recently by ted kennedy who passed away last august. "the boston herald" says it's
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coakley's race to lose and she may be doing that. the race threatens president obama. he needs the 60th vote to pass his health care overhaul. >> it's clear now that the outcome of these and other fights will probably wrest on one vote in the united states senate. that's why what happens on tuesday in massachusetts is so important. we know where martha coakley stands. i need you to put on your walking shoes again, knock on doors, call, e-mail, text and tweet, and make sure everyone you know understands the stakes for their families, for massachusetts, and our countries. >> meanwhile, things looking bleak for the president in the next presidential election perhaps. a new heartland/monitor poll, not the one you're looking at here. 50% of americans would vote for someone else if the 20 12 election were held today. just 39% would re-elect for
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obama in that one poll. >> perhaps next week the president will be at 55%. we don't know. but he has lost significant ground in the cbs poll, "the new york times" poll, polls that usually trend a little left of center, just like rassmussen is a little right of center. the president's drop, heartland monitor, 39% would re-elect and scott brown in massachusetts. something has happened over the past week politically. does it all go back to an unpopular health care bill? >> i think it's a stubborn and even perhaps growing unemployment rate. it's a health care bill that almost no one can tell you what's in it that's good. and the someone else's that he has -- being someone else running as the president is an easy thing to do. if you put a real name there, i
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think he wins. >> especially if that real name is a republican name. >> my favorite polling point from recent months is there are more republicans according to gallup who doesn't believe governor palin is qualified, more republicans would vote for her than believe she is qualified to be president. it's civic incoherent. everything seems to move faster. this is an old pattern it happened to franklin roosevelt, lyndon johnson, bill clinton. why the country seems to be turning toward a great new progressive dawn and runs into a reaction and a conservative reality. and we've been to this movie before, it's coming out a little more quickly. and that's not to say the
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president doesn't have a lot of real important political and policy work to do, but part of it i think is a natural reaction to the economy, and i think it's -- if senator mccain were president mccain and the economy was where it was, i suspect you would be in the same place. >> no doubt about that. we have a big show coming up. >> more coming up. reverend jesse jackson, plus, harold ford jr. and "the wall street journal's" peggy noonan. up next, david axelrod goes after karl rove. plus, the late-night royal rumble gets worse. you have to see this clip. jimmy kimmel goes off on leno on leno's own show. and conan puts his show up for sale on craigslist. >> what a beautiful day from boston all the way to d.c. these are the warmest
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jay leno is middle america. he represents traditional american values, like killing
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indians because they want your land. jay leno. americans standing up for jay. >> jay getting from all sides. >> i don't know that's fair. >> conan after him, kimmel after him, letterman after him. >> i'm sorry. now we're going to play the newspapers, talk politics and polls. we have to show that jimmy kimmel clip at some point. that was a brutal a clip as -- >> went into jay's own house and just -- >> seriously, it was like the scene in "the verdict" where james mason asks the woman nurse the wrong question, and she -- you saw "the verdict," and she answers and the whole courtroom -- last night, jay and jimmy kimmel, the wrong question. >> lobbed up some softballs for
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him. >> "miami herald," life amid ruin. a woman who survived after being trapped 43 hours under rubble. "the wall street journal," banks set for record pay. employees will earn 18% more than they did in 2008. good for them. "the boston globe," scott brown pushing far beyond the g.o.p. base. president obama set to be campaigning for martha coakley. with us now, chief political correspondent for politico, mike allen. he is here for a look at the morning playbook. >> happy friday, guys. >> happy friday. your headline in pliolitico, ma panic. >> it now looks like as we saw in the headline there, that a republican actually could win
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senator kennedy's seat. flip-flopping here, i said on "morning joe," i thought there was enough time for the democratic machine to mobilize in massachusetts, that they woke up in time. in talking to senior people in the democratic and republican party, people now believe it is possible for the republican to win. a couple reasons. one, the democratic candidate martha coakley ran a mechanicicly clumsy campaign. took time off for christmas. hasn't done a lot of basic things that you do, at one point joking what do you want to do, have me go work fenway park? yeah, that probably wouldn't be a long time. a lot of people didn't think she waited a respectable amount of time to announce. and she came to washington and did a fund-raiser with lobbyists in the closing days of the campaign. >> i'm curious, because the
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blogosphere is focusing on an incident that happened a couple of days ago, where one of the people pushed a reporter. >> the video suggest s he trid with the help of a coakley supporter. how is this playing in massachusetts? >> it's gotten heavy play up there. and that has contributed to the problem. and people at the top of both parties tell you when you get momentum going like this, it's very difficult to change. the white house thought things improved a little bit yesterday. there is a negative ad running against the republican they believe will help. republicans don't have much of a machine in massachusetts, but there is a third element, polling 50% for the republicans, 46% for the democrats. a statistical tie. but, wow, what a swing.
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this pulls to a decisive issue, getting 3% in the poll is the tea party candidate, a libertarian businessman. usually good for democrats stifling away republican votes, but his name is joe kennedy. what if democrats vote for joe kennedy, the tea party guy and not their own democrat, clearing the way for scott brown, the republican. it could happen. >> no relation to the nont-tea party candidate. totally screwed that up. sorry about that. coming up, rove vs. axelrod. picking apart claims that democrats have run up more debt this year than bush did in eight years. >> this is delicious. david axle rod going against the man who held his title, senior adviser to the president, a great tile. karl rove had mischievously been
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invited in last sunday's "post" to give advice to democrats. i don't know how good this advice was, because it included -- he said that people really don't like the big things democrats are doing, so they should dig themselves deeper was basically the advice that carl gave. but david axle rod focused on one specific point. carl made a lot of points how they were losing independents. but he focused on carl's claim that it was president obama that run up the nation's debt. and it shows that this white house doesn't want there to be conventional wisdom how they are spending crazingly, and david axelrod says in eight bush years, president bush added more to the nation's debt than all the debt added by every other of the 42 presidents combined.
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>> if i were both of these people working for either one of these administrations, i would just keep my mouth shut when it came to the deficit. bush did, he took the deficit and moved it to $11.5 trillion. $155 billion surplus when he came in, left with a deficit. and barack obama's budgets aren't exactly -- >> yeah. >> he is bumping the nation's debt too. they should probably just talk about health care. >> they should. if i can suggest something to mike. mike, that wasn't a flip-flop to the massachusetts view. it's an evolving view. you're growing in office. >> just like conservatives that get on the supreme court. >> mike allen, we'll talk to you later in the show. up next here, moderator of "meet the press," david gregory. also, the late-night talk
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welcome back to "morning joe," just after 6:30 in times square on the east coast. today's top storistories. the first wave of american troops arriving in haiti. forces will help provide security to a country where police forces have all but disappeared. although relief continues to arrive at the airport, safety concerns and a lack of passable roads slowing the distribution of all of the aid. a big compromise on health care overhaul could be on the way following a break through agreement between labor agreements. they were at disagreement on tax on cadillac health care plans. at nasa, employees get ready to launch the space shuttle "discovery," they are being tested for drugs after a bag of cocaine was found inside the
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shuttle's hangar. >> let me just say this explains a lot. >> it was discovered -- >> and it was an orange substance. they thought it was tang at first. but astronauts may be coloring their cocaine. >> it was discovered in a secure part of the facility, accessible to only about 200 workers, one of them apparently who say coke head there are no reports of anyone acting oddly. >> let's move to a topic where drugs never play a part and that is the national football league. >> of course not. nfl playoffs continue this weekend, with divisional matchups this saturday. after winning a shootout over the packers in overtime, expect another one. cardinals head to new orleans to take on the saints. saints start out 13-0, but lost three straight to end the season. who do you like? >> i think the saints will pull it out. >> night cap features the colts and the ravens.
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and on sunday, brett favre and the vikings bring dallas into town. it will be at the metrodome at 1:00. i think an upset here. >> i was thinking i would normally pick favre and the vikings to do so great, but i spent too many cold january days watch brett favre throw the ball straight up in the air and hope somebody on his team catches the ball and they rarely do. >> signature move. it is. >> i love the guy, you got to love favre. isn't it great at the end of every playoff game, people go back, close his eyes and whip it down the field and hope something happens. >> he's interception prone. we like to say that. jets going to san diego. i like the jets, but i think the dream is over. >> i am going to stick with the jets. >> i hope they win. >> they have a remarkable story. their own coach said, well,
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we're screwed, out of playoffs and he proved himself wrong. >> and doing it with a rookie quarterback. >> coming up next, the leno clip we have been talking about all morning. kimmel hits jay hard on leno's own show. and ron brownstein, and which stories make the cut in the week in review. concierge claim centers. so i can just drop off my car and you'll take care of everything? yep, even the rental. what if i'm stuck at the office? if you can't come to us, we'll come to you in one of our immediate response vehicles! what if mother won't let me drive? then you probably wouldn't have had an accident in the first place. and we're walkin'!
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you're known for pranks, what is the $prank you ever pulled? >> i told a guy that five years from now, i'm going to give you my show. and then when the five years came, i gave it to him and then
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took it back almost instantly. >> ever order anything off the tv? >> like nbc ordered your show off the tv? >> no, no, no. >> strippers in general i don't like this. you have this phony relationship with money, similar to when you and conan were on "the tonight show" together passing the torch. you know what i'm saying? >> yes, i do. >> we have lives to lead here. have you $800 million. for god sakes, leave our shows alone. >> if you watch the full clip, the audience was laughing, this is a funny gag, and then as it went on, the laughter sort of stopped. wait a minute, this is a serious attack on the host of the show. >> leno asked him, again, i don't know if we got all of it in there, what was the biggest prank you ever pulled and he started there. and leno clearly looking embarrassed.
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>> i think that kimmel was going to come in and stir the pot a little bit. but i don't think he expected it to that extent. >> let me just say once again that nbc executives are geniuses. they have finally drawn attention to two shows with sagging ratings over the past several months. i really shouldn't tell you this. but this is all planned. they plotted this. and this is all part of the master machine. as the emperor said at the end of "star wars" this is all proceeding as i wanted. >> where is it all going, though? >> i don't know. hopefully civil war. >> conan back on it last night. pretty relentless this week, going after nbc. here is what he said last night. >> while i still can, i've decided to sell "the tonight
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show," on craigslist. i'm not sure exactly how this works, but while i'm here this feels like the thing to do this is a real ad we're putting on craigslist. for sale, barely used, late night talk show. make me an offer. it's really out there. >> i'd buy that. "the new york times," bill carter, the media writer who has been leading the coverage on this story, spoke to dick ebersol, head of nbc universal sports, a huge figure at nbc. surprising remarks here.
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that from dick ebersol. he went on to say later in the piece that simply we bet on the wrong guy in conan o'brien. >> there are other parts of the piece that are telling. i like conan an awful lot. i watched him more than i ever watched jay leno. you can watch five minutes of his show and see he hasn't adap dapted. you were talking about this earlier, norah. i watched conan's tonight show, and, again, a guy that grew up watching carson and saw it passed to leno, and leno, i don't know if he's big enough to fill carson's shoes and i saw conan, again, who i love at 12:30 at night, and he's still doing the gag that drunk college students like, the funny faces
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and spinning around. i'm sorry. it's the difference between being a congressman and a president. you have to expand your appeal if you are going to fill the shoes. >> ebersol met with o'broadwayen three weeks before the launch of tonight. he gave him advice on changes and ebersol said i like conan enormously personally, he was stubborn about not being willing to bredden the appeal of the show. this is pretty personal with conan attacking nbc. >> you know, president kennedy said after the bay of pigs. >> whoa. we went from late night to bay of pigs. >> we're about to do the orphan quote. go ahead. >> you do it. >> success has 1,000 fathers and defeat is an orphan. if it worked, people would be
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praising o'brien to sticking to his brand and bringing in younger voters. isn't it interesting, this is the third time "the tonight show" has played a role in the national -- become a huge national story. jack parr walking off, the great succession struggle between letterman and leno. and now this. and i guess it's a sign of the enormity of that brand as we say. everything is a brand now. i have to say that. but it's -- a lot of monday morning quarterbacking here. >> and a lot of conan fans, even five years ago, said, boy, i hope he doesn't give up what made us love him so much, cynical, love, sarcastic and as
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ebersol pointed out, he didn't want to give up that brand and maybe it cost him his job. >> maybe so. but you have everybody feeling sorry for conan. >> hey, i -- >> send me home with his salary for a couple of years. >> i say give it to craig ferguson. i like his british accent. >> he's very funny. >> do you understand what i'm saying? i prefer conan to leno. i prefer my dog to leno. that's just me. >> oh! >> well, my dog is very funny. >> that is true. >> the thing about leno, you can watch the show. and as a tv executive that guy will work in middle america, in the central time zone, which carson was smart enough to know, that's where you win these battles. conan, whom i prefer, though.
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you can look at the show for two minutes and say this probably isn't going to do as well in chicago. >> do we want this to generate the humor that plays to -- >> we want ratings. >> yes. >> and, look, two things working nbc, or two things that used to work at nbc, the news division and late night. and now we've got the news division. and i'm sorry. i hate to sound like a controlled, hard executive. and i said you can wave a magic wand, you get leno back where he was. leno will be number one again in a month against letterman. >> it will be interesting to see how long it takes to get back to where letterman is right now. letterman flying highlightly. coming up, david gregory of
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oh, yes. is it time? >> mika. >> the spirit of mika. >> time for the week in review. we are well aware there are serious events taking place
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around the world. we'll give you a break from those. this is complete trash. no value whatsoever. the three stories that were thrown into quick perspective by the events in haiti. >> i apologize to everybody in major league baseball. >> at number three, roy rage. >> today was the hardest day of my life. mark mcgwire angered baseball fans but surprised no one really when he announced he used steroids during his record-breaking baseball career. the hulking home run hitter was credited with bringing baseball back from the dead during the memorable 1998 season when he and sammy sosa chased and broke the single season home run record. there had been whispers about his steroid use years earlier when he began to buy separate
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plane tickets with his forearms and stomp through small villages in the countryside. at number two, race issues. >> obama was described as light skinned and possessing "no negro dialect." >> negro dialect. >> negro dialect. >> what is the world in a negro dialect? that's racist. >> as president obama excused an unfortunate term used by harry reid, he had no public response to a comment made by another of our nation's great leaders. >> what i said was stupid, stupid, stupid. >> a day after being quoted in a magazine for saying "blacker than barack obama." >> i was spaking metaphorically. >> anyone else would you like to apologize to? >> mandela, dr. king, gandhi.
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>> what do you have to say about this? >> stupid, stupid, stupid. >> and the number one story of the week. >> my name is conan o'brien and i may soon be available for children's parties. >> conan, the barbarian. >> you can do anything you want in life. unless jay leno wants to do it too. >> "tonight show" host conan o'brien refused nbc's proposal to move his show to midnight to make way for jay leno, and refused very publicly. >> our new slogan at nbc is no longer just screwing up prime sometime. wr in americans taking sides, the conan/leno issue threatened to divide a nation. >> seven months. how did he get that deal? we only got four. geez. >> even the other guys got in on
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the fun this week. >> you know what this means? that's right. i knocked off another competitor. >> ever order anything off the tv? >> like nbc ordered your show off the tv? >> no, no. >> conan and i have children. all you have to take care of is cars. i mean, we have lives to lead here. you got $800 million. for god sakes, leave our shows alone. >> oh. >> leave our shows alone. >> that was personal. >> it was. last night was personal. most of the week was personal frankly. coming up, moderator of "meet the press." >> why is nbc keeping conan on to just trash them for another week and build up his following for the week. >> it may not last much longer. we'll be right back. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 enough is enough. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 it's time investors got what they deserve.
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welcome to "morning joe." a beautiful shot of the white house this morning. 7:00 a.m. on the east coast. welcome to "morning joe." i'm joe scarborough along with willie geist. a shot of times square. mika brzezinski not with us today. i'm sure she's jetting to the south of france, as usual. it is friday, after all. actually, she's on a book tour and has been working around the clock. we miss her, but she'll be back on monday. but obviously, the news out of haiti right now, and, again, it keeps getting worse. relief efforts under way, and so massive that yesterday the faa
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had to shut down air space over port-au-prince because there were so many relief planes circling. the tarmac was jammed. introduce -- who do we have? >> norah o'donnell, john meacham, and our friend from pbs, dalit. and moderator of "meet the press" mr. david gregory. and tim brownstein. you can see it takes a village to fill mika's shoes. >> you have been reporting that supplies are arriving, but stacking up on the tarmac. >> it really is a tragedy. here is haiti, a country that can catch a break. on top of all of the other problems, bad governance, corruption, hurricanes. now have you this earthquake. some of the aid has begun to
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arrive. the problem, the port has been badly damaged. there is -- there's aid on the tarmac, but the problem is getting the trucks to sort of load the aid up and getting the people to deliver it to where it needs to go is the big problem. the infrastructure has been totally smashed to pieces. there are no roads, so this is a military operation, haiti has no military. the government, we don't know what the situation is with the government to what point is it functioning. barely there or not? that kind of creates a whole new set of other problems, which i think we'll sort of see in the reporting in the next few days, there is this vacuum that is left open. what will go into that vacuum? >> it looks like the united states, the 82nd airborne, taking the lead. the officials say the next
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24 hours will be critical for the 3 million haitians in desperate need of food, medicine and water. a lot of it sitting idle at the airport waiting to be moved in to port-au-prince. the white house says cuba has agreed to allow the united states to use cuban air space to evacuate quake victims. and they have been moved to the base at guantanamo bay to be treated there. roads blocked mean a delay in getting help to people. many of the city's roads impassable. the main seaport damaged, making difficult for deliveries by ship to come in. crates pilling up at the airport as relief aid arriving faster it can be unloaded. officials now face the daunting ta task of deciding who needs the help the most.
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the priorityizing and triageing, and there are safety concerns as the crowd is becoming desperate for food and water. just beginning get a sense of the death toll. the red cross estimates as many as 50,000 were killed. we heard estimates higher than that. the red cross saying 50,000. just a warning here. we're about to show you some pretty graphic images of a morgue seen outside of the hospital. the morgue completely full. bodies being laid in piles outside. at least 7,000 bodies were buried in just one mass grave alone. thousands of other victims are crowded into makeshift hospitals around port-au-prince. the united states continuing to spearhead the international response with president obama as we said pledging $100 million in emergency aid and enlisting the help of president clinton and george w. bush to lead the american effort.
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>> former president bush and i talked today. he agreed to help and do what his father and i did after the tsunami. this should signal to people that america is in this for the long haul. i thank the president for his commitment. a very personal thing to hillary. usaid, the american military, we're in this thing. >> the first lady also speaking out. michelle obama taped a public service announcement on behalf of the red cross with americans opening their wallets to help, visa and american express are now waiving fees on donations placed with credit cards. they faced criticism for profiting off contributions. they have now waived fees. politics coming into this as you can expect. into this american relief effort. obama administration urging americans to donate, but rush limbaugh calling for the exact opposite. he told listeners not to place contributions, because he says
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that president obama is using the crisis to boost political standing. he doubts that money given through the white house website will reach victims of the quake, and now the white house is responding. >> i think in times of great crisis there are always people who say really stupid things. to use the power of your pulpit to try to convince those not to help their brothers and sisters is sad. >> and -- >> can you believe limbaugh? >> no. >> period. it's just sad. >> there are real questions and concerns it's fair to say about what happens in these international relief efforts, whether the money gets in the right hand, but to frame it that way, while people are still dying in the streets. >> 7,000 people in a mass grave. children. children. and many of them are dead.
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it's different when a big block falls on a child and not an adult and to say don't donate, you have to have a pretty cold heart. >> and everybody wants to donate. i think the important thing is that money that is donated gets to people who need it, because as is often the case and sometimes the money is given, people are very generous. the united states has pledged 100 million, but it's really imperative that this money is actually used to benefit people who use it. and haiti has -- is a desperately poor country. 60% of the people there are unemployed. 80% of people live below the poverty line. money has been given generously before in the past and it's imperative this gives to people and doesn't end up in the pockets of some corrupt or spent
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on a villa in the south of france. >> david gregory, of course, you look at the limbaugh clip and it does epitomize what's wrong with american politics. there have been, and after i criticized limbaugh yesterday, of course, all day people on the right shot me examples of democrats trying to use this for political advantage and there were some silly arguments made about how somehow this proves that obama's health care plan should go through. without a doubt, limbaugh went over the line, far over the line, more so than anybody else. >> well, you know, he doesn't have much of a say in terms of how much is donated down to the haitians who are in need. i would think that the much bigger issues right now are some of the exigent needs in terms of getting the aid down there. talked about the inability to unload some of the supplies off the planes or even get the planes in there. big concern talking to
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administration officials last night is the search and rescue capacity. that has to be first. getting the food in there, and water. let's not overstate -- we can't overstate how important water is. i talked to a government official, a specialist in infectious diseases, and he said the way you avoid some of the huge health problems and because of lack of san ftarry condition, a lot of the diseases can be avoided. making headlines domestically, the unthinkable a few weeks ago. massachusetts becoming the next battleground state. the republican candidate, scott brown, leading his democratic opponent, martha coakley, by four points. that seat has been held by a democrat for decades, most recently by teddy kennedy. one political expert says that it's coakley's race to lose and
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that's exactly what she may be doing. the white house has weighed in on the race. it threatens president obama, who needs that 60th vote to pass health care reform. >> it's clear the outcome of these and other fights will probably rest on one vote in the united states. that's why what happens tuesday in massachusetts is so important. we know where martha coakley stands. i need you to put on your walking shoes again. knock on doors, call, e-mail, text and tweet. and make sure everyone you know understand the sftakes for thei families, for massachusetts and their country. >> this race set against the back drop of this new poll. things looking bleak. 39% say if the 20 12 presidential election were held today, would you re-elect obama. 39% said they would 50% said
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they would elect somebody else. >> you look at those numbers, 39% would re-elect the president and this massachusetts race, i don't even know how to put that one in perspective. >> well, you know, we are in a season of discontent. when people are as unhappy as they are right now and this poll is dramatic in its documentation of alienation from every major substitution, xworchlt, the corporations, the financial sector. people feel they are paddling alone, and in a moment like that, a lot of rules go out the window. >> ron if it was turbulent a year ago, why have his numbers fallen precipitously and we've noticed an accelerating rate over the past week? >> the answer is very clear from the poll i think, which is by and large, americans believe that the principal punishries of
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all of the government's efforts to repair the economy, are the same people who most americans think broke the economy. principal been physician to bigbacks, big companies and very little has directly benefitted them. on the re-elect number, the single most revealing number in the poll was a different one. we asked what the impact of the obama policy has been. a third say that he has made things worse. a third of the country -- a little more, pretty hard set against him 163% say he's made things better. 52% believe he has put us in the right direction. that's the we will of good will he has to draw on. but the performance, lack of improvement, is decompleting that number. we have him at 47%, 45%, a broad-based decline. when a president falls under
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50%, bad things can happen to his party in unexpected places like massachusetts. >> and any politician will tell you, once your re-elect falls below 50%, you're in big trouble. his is below 40%. massachusetts, i don't believe a republican has been elected to the senate since 197 2, and it seems like all the plates are shifting underneath us politically. what's going on up there? >> well, the white house is really worried about it. speaking to massachusetts hands who are watching this race closely, they say the problem is martha coakley was running more of a re-election race for attorney general rather than really campaigning hard on this. >> she took a couple of weeks off, right? >> right. and she was sort of mocking the idea of being able to reach all of the voters. what do you expect? say i'm going to stand outside fenway and shake hands in the cold? >> oh, as a politician. what a horrible thing to do.
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oh, wait. that's one of the smartest things to do. is she arrogant, just not that bright? what does it take in massachusetts, how could she have screwed up something so badly? >> the expectation is she would be a fine senator, but in terms of how the race has been run, it's not very effective. there is still an expectation that certainly the number of independents will be a lot higher because of all of the attention paid. look at how much both parties are paying on a national basis into this race, how much money being put in there. there are glimmers of hope. she might do better among republican women, suburban women. but there is high anxiety about the race right now. obama, what more he should do. there is a feeling, a bit of a split in the white house, but it could be counterproductive for him to go in there, you could see the right saying this is a
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vine of desperation. and also in the middle of the haitian governmedisaster, to ta political trip could be disastrous. >> and up in massachusetts, the numbers aren't strong. >> we had a narrow split against it in the polling and they have struggled to sell it. look, you can tell -- i say you look at what politicians and political parties do, not what they say. and the fact that democrats poring so much last-minute effort into this was the best indication of concern about where this is going. i thought yesterday it was interesting what the president said. he was very aggressive, as david axle rod was, saying we can go out and sell this, and once it does pass if it does pass, i thought it was interesting the language the president uses,
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trying to say that republicans were trying to defend insurance companies, and make a pop list argument there. there is a pop list uprising against all institutions. will it be focused against government or big business and the financial sector? you can see the wheels turning here and the white house trying to shift that focus away from a very successful attempt by conservatives to make the government the principal focus of the ire. >> the fact is that he worked with banks in the bailouts, like the republicans did, and then he cut deals with big pharmaceuticals and the hospitals, and in the end, insurance companies. insurance company stocks shot up. that's not helping the president or his party. >> he'll have a very hard time of the clarity of his pop list message to say the least, and he's not a passionate -- an
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overtly passionate politician. what i'd love to hear david or ron on, is what do they think -- how does this moment compare to january 1994. >> david. >> well, the difficulty right now is how hard is is to govern in america. i went out and talked to governor schwarzenegger in california last week. here he is coming at the end of his two terms out there and facing structural difficulties of governing at this point. president obama faces that for the reasons that ron talked about. the question is whether dwomt gets hit the hardest or whether institutions do. right now, as ron suggested, the white house wants this fight with the banks. they are concerned that they aren't helping the little guy enough. he is facing all of the headwinds. people don't believe the government is the answer, at a time when government is trying to be responsible for solving
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huge, huge problems. >> who is on "meet the press" this sunday. >> we'll have the latest on haiti. hear from administration officials. the white house still working that out. and the roundtable, where we'll pick up with the politics, bank tax, and everything else. >> ron, only 15 seconds. answer john's question. does this feel like january 1994? >> a lot of similarities. similar also on the clock for congressional democrats. it's more ominous than the clock for president obama. he has time to build on a substantial base of support. >> i agree completely. this is all about an offyear election, john meacham. i don't think the president has to worry right now at all. "newsweek," will the president write the cover story for "newsweek?" >> president obama writing on haiti, president clinton wrote on haiti for us. they have taken a lot of editing very well, they are used to being told what to do.
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>> david gregory, we'll be watching sunday on "meet the press." number one. if it's sunday, what is it? >> "meet the press," number one by a wide margin. coming up, a look at the daily rundown with chuck todd live at the white house, and reverend jesse jackson. he'll be here, plus the man of the hour in the state of new york, harold ford jr. >> really? >> and "the wall street journal's" peggy noonan. but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. what a beautiful day we'll have in so many locations in the country. airports doing just fine. a mild morning. 65 in miami. that's more like it. and fabulous. go for a walk on your lunch if you can. and in the middle of the country, okay. the problem areas in texas. heavy rain in morning. and it heads to the southeast for your saturday. you're watching "morning joe," brewed by starbucks. there are many paths to good health.
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my commitment is to the taxpayer, to recover every single dime the american people are owed. and my determination to achieve this goal is only heightened when i see reports of massive profits and obscene bonuses at some of the very firms who owe their continued existence to the american people. folks, who have not been made whole, and continue to face real hardship in this recession. we want our money back, and we're going to get it. >> here with us now, nbc news chief white house correspondent and nbc news political director, chuck todd. the co-host of "the daily rundown" every day at 9:00. good morning, chuck. >> good morning, willie. >> looking at the president, sounding luke ining like a popu. the democratic candidate in massachusetts losing right now.
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polls all over the place up there. is this the president understanding he needs to reconnect with his base, and a great way of doing it is going after banks. >> i think they have understood for six months they have to reconnect. but they have been distracted by the health care fight. nothing about health care has somehow been a way to connect to the middle of the -- to the middle of the country -- middle of the electorate. >> their base should love the health care issue. and even their own base. it's saying you struck deals with big pharma, struck deals with big hospitals. in the end, insurance companies made out like bandits in this bill. >> there is a divide. >> one thing i would say. there is a divide between the actual obama base and the sort of the liberal opinion elite on this front. we don't see the noechlt -- you
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know, where president obama last support hasn't been with his base. more with the middle or the center of the electorate or independents. to go back to the banking thing, absolutely this is an opportunity to lock like a pop list. i will tell you this. the thing that's hard to get at this policiwise is a lot of the money owed back to the tarp, to this bailout fund, comes from the automakers, so either one of two things. either they don't believe they are getting that money back from the auto plaikers, which is probably a pretty good bet. or, two, if it does come back, will they get the money back to the banks or where is it going to go? they had a hard time explaining that yesterday. a lot of us beat up on gibbs about it. you understand the average joe -- no pun intended -- when you consider the outrageory the
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t.a.r.p. >> i never considered myself a. >> your mother as a says you were above average. >> no, she always said i was below average. sorry, mom. i know you are watching. let's say you had a scenario you asked a class, going into an off-year election. if the sitting president had a 39% re-elect, how would his party do that year? would the response be devastating? >> absolutely it would be shel shelaking. the approval rating is much easier to see and track. the fact is, if the approval rating is a lot closer to 45% than to 55%, come october and november 2010, it's going to be
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a shelacking. >> i'm trying to figure out why has it been dropping? the cbs poll, "the new york times" poll, dropped into the mid 40s and dropped pretty quickly in the last week or two. why is that? >> the move still coming from independents. republicans even more so. still getting 15% to 20% 30 rating from republicans. that number keeps going down. keeps losing on the margins. with democrats, a little bit of drop. but not as big as what you are seeing in the middle. joe, i know you have herald ford. a great piece of political speculation saying harold ford might be trying to run as an independent. ask him if he would run as an independent or go the joe lieberman route. >> we've got him here. we'll do that. one final question. i want to put up the
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massachusetts poll that shows brown up by four percentage points. constitute rodo you really thina republican can ever win that race? >> i have a feeling if brown loses it will be because turnout isn't high enough. he needs the casual, angry, independent to come out and vote, and those folks don't usually vote in special elections. >> all right. >> that could be -- oh, the irony there, that a low turnout could help the democrat. >> fascinating. >> is kennedy a tea party ralph nader in that thing? >> what? >> the tea party guy. the other joe kennedy. >> oh, the other joe kennedy. any one or two points will. by the way, the national party will be get beaten up by the tea party crowd if brown comes up a
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point or two short. >> thank you so much. we'll be watching and you savannah on "the daily rundown" right after "morning joe." your show is great. we love it. >> thank you. when we come back, michigan governor jennifer granholm. we'll be right back with "morning joe." ♪ ♪ ♪ when it comes to protecting the things you care about... ...leave nothing to chance. travelers. insurance for auto, home, and business.
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with us now, the governor of michigan, jennifer grn hoanholm. governor, thank you for being us with. the auto show is in your town, your state again. what are we going to see? >> well -- >> give us some good news. that's what we want, good news. >> i know. last year at this time, we weren't sure whether not just the auto show was going to survive, but an american auto industry was obvious until major crisis. we've gone through a horrible year. but this year at the auto show, u. it's like we have turned a whole new page. ford got the car and truck of the year with the fusion hybrid and this transit connect. it's a completely new
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atmosphere, and, joe, i know you're a car guy. the challenge we've had, of course, is the internal combustion engine and make sure these cars are fuel efficient. with the electric car, the heartbeat is the battery. all of the batteries previously were made in asia. now we have a whole -- these are advanced batteries like the battery in your laptop, not a little acid battery. but much bigger. all of those batteries will now be made in the u.s. and mostly in michigan. a whole bunch of jobs created in the electric battery industry. >> and, governor, i am not a car guy. i have trouble getting gas in the tank. >> but you like cars, and you like american cars. >> i like american cars, i like my gm cars. and i'm very excited. i don't think we've talked about ford enough.
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ford weathered an extraordinary storm, and i'm excited about what ford is doing in wayne, michigan. ford is investing in michigan, aren't they? >> they are hugely investing in michigan. they just announced another $450 million, all going into what they call the electrification of the vehicles. they are making an all-electric car in wayne, michigan. hiring more than 1,000 new people. yesterday, i was at a new assembly operation for a new battery going in -- partnering with chrysler. this is a whole new day. good news amidst the challenging news you are reporting this morning. i want people to know that there are great signs of life for advanced manufacturing in this country. >> willie fwoogeist here. in 2009, china was the world leader in exporting automobiles.
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and production up 45%, the united states down 21%. what do we do in your state to stem that and to reclaim our standing in the world in auto manufacturing? >> well, and this is -- this is the key, and we really appreciate here the obama administration's commitment to clean tech manufacturing in this country. you know, first of all, you can't be victimized by a global economy. you have to take advantage of it. for any of the chinese auto manufacturers who want to be able to sell in a market, i invite them to come and manufacture in michigan and make sure they are mesh made. but, in addition to that the obama administration has, for example, on the battery side. 1$1.3 billion of the recovery money to michigan for battery production. they are committed to having the means to make us energy independent in this country, and, of course, manufacturing the automobile is the best way to get there. we appreciate that partnership
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for that new technology. >> let me ask you this. news for china in the '80s and '90s. our good brother has been talking about economic nationalism for some time. do you think that all of us b bowing at the altar of free trade at all costs has gutted our manufacturing base, gutted michigan, has gutted detroit? >> there's no doubt that the way the free trade system has been negotiated and enforced, has disadvantaged this country. we have given away the store in allowing these other countries to take manufacturing away from the united states and to steal our intellectual property, our ideas, and not enforce trade agreements. we're not afraid of trade. it just should be fair trade. we can compete with anyone,
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anywhere, any time, make sure it's fair and the playi ining f is level, bring it on. >> jennifer granholm, thank you. a lot of people have bowed at the altar of free trade. to say it's not even an ideology, it's a religion. i think we need to talk about it more. >> i agree. >> you do too, don't you, willie? >> i do. coming up next, a man making big headlines this week. harold ford jr. >> senator, congressman. also joining us, senator ted kaufman. keep it on "morning joe." (jennifer garner) there's a lot of beautiful makeup out there
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"the washington times," not known as a big promoter of the obama agenda, that we had succeeded where previous administrations failed to finally get serious on some of these spending cuts that had been talked about for years. in this house -- at this house -- this house passed common sense financial regulatory reform to help prevent a crisis like this from ever happening again. >> all right. with us now, democratic senator from delaware, senator ted kaufman, and nbc political analyst and chairman of the dnc, harold ford, jr. >> doing nothing else. >> good to see you. >> political analyst -- >> so presumptuous. >> harold, nyu.
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>> you are in a new york state of mind, baby. >> how about fat cat banker? can we call you that? >> i work at a bank, proud of it. the banking industry will get cleaned up by my friend here. >> what do you think of the banking tax that the president is trying to pass? good idea, bad idea? >> i think revenue has to be raised, but i'm concerned about the affect it will have on new york. you heard the mayor and governor state no harm should be done. and i would ask senator schumer and gillibrand to ensure whatever you vote yes for, it do no harm to the city and state of new york. >> i'm sorry to interrupt, but chuck todd said harold may run as an independent. a rumor out there. are you considering running as an independent, true or false? >> the thinking hasn't
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progressed that far, but if i run, i'll run as a democrat. i'm a proud democrat. >> i switch parties like i switch t-shirts. >> as we said throughout the last 11, 12 days, i think democrats are looking for an independent, standup democrat to run. >> "the new york times" article, rough article, not great for you politically. a bad launch. what happened there? >> i wouldn't call it a bad launch. >> it was a bad article, right? >> a reporter that asked some questions, took some -- recycled some old articles. i hope we can talk about issues, talk about things that concern new yorkers. >> you had some good face. >> actually, they are pretty bad. >> you have been attacked already, even though you haven't announced that you are in the race, for flip-flopping on gay
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marriage and the issues of life. what is the truth about that? >> i was pro choice when i was elected to congress in 1996. i would have a problem being in my own home if i were not. i did vote against late-term abortions and parental notice, where if, indeed, a woman under 18 goes to get advice, the doctor has to notify the parents. if you can't go see nr-17 movies without parental advice, you shouldn't be able to get an abortion. i understand that those who don't want to vote for me, but to say i'm pro life is just wrong. there is a clip going on i say i am pro life, i believe in increased spending for education, health care. veteran's pay was cut, not insuring that all armed forces
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personnel had the right equipment. secretary rumsfeld said we go to war with the army we had, not the army we wanted. and i was defending my state. saying that harold ford is a baby killer and i said if you're pro life, you wouldn't do that would you support other things. i have supported several units in the outset of my career. and the fight for full equality and marriage as it relates to marriage is many in that for those with gay rights fought for. i have the fact same position on this. >> speaking of senator schumer, it seems to me that senator schumer, the white house, the democratic establishment, are trying to crush you, are trying to stop your efforts before they begin. i'm not trying to be funny. they are trying to kill your candidacy before it lauchs and they may have -- >> they haven't been supportive.
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>> why are they so scared of you? >> would you have to ask the senator and i've not heard from president obama. >> they are not helpful, are they? are you disappointed, as much as you supported barack obama, are you supported that robert gibbs is trying to keep out of this race? >> i'm more interested in gaining a better understand of what new yorkers interests are what i heard so far, they want an independent senator, one that won't be dictated to by party bosses and one who will stand up to -- >> just so you know, i have lived here for five years, upstate new york, if you need help in elmira, new york, or upper west side, i'm your man. i control columbus and broad way from 64th to 78th. >> are you going to campaign for harold? >> i would knock on every door on the up every west side. they love me up there. senator, aren't you glad you're from delaware instead of new
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york? >> every day i get up and say thank god i'm glad i'm from delaware. i like new york, but i'm glad i'm from delaware. >> should the president go after the banks? >> i think he should. when you start seeing the bonuses and the amount of money rolled up, why do you not? >> they don't get it, do they? >> well, one of the things i spent a lot of times in washington, but also spent a lot of time around finance. the bubble around new york is something. the biggest thing new york has is financial markets and how i got started, is the credibility of financial markets is key to the united states of america and there are 1,000 times key in new york. if people start losing faith in the fact that they are getting a level deal -- >> don't you think they have already lost faith? >> we have to stop the bleeding.
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and i think mary schapiro is getting started. and the meeting the other day, part of my legislation, i think we have to get to financial aid reform. a whole host of things going on. i think we need to start with the short selling. >> everything just collapses and accelerating affect. >> how about the clearance -- >> what do you think? >> go ahead. >> i personally and "the financial times" think it's a really good idea. one of the arguments we hear which harold was edging into was the notion that new york might lose its preimens as a financial center. do you buy that? >> if we don't do what we're doing, we'll -- >> the tax -- >> the tax is a piece of it. that's not the main thing. i'm concerned about the s.e.c. get back to regulating business. there are new regulations.
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to me, that's like a football game where we pull the referees. >> agree with you. >> by the way, senator ford, a lot of bankers are now starting to say we need regulation. i like the sound of that, senator ford. >> there are two different issues here, the fee on the bank and what senator kaufman's talking about. i might add, governor granholm was just on. you didn't hear her picking on the car industry. and i think a new york senator is not supposed to be picking on -- senator, i'm with 100%. >> it's key. we can talk about all these other things, but if we lose -- the two things that made america great was democracy and free incredible markets. if we worry up about free and credible markets, we won't have to worry about -- >> thank you, senator. thank you so much. appreciate your time, presumptive senator ford, we appreciate your time as well. >> and harold, come on our radio show. we've got a little station in our network called wabc, they're going to love you on staten island. >> it's a little station.
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years from now, i'm going to give you my show. and then when the five years came, i gave it to him and then i took it back almost instantly. >> ever order anything off the tv? >> like nbc ordered your show off the tv? strippers i don't like in general, because you have this phony relationship with them for money, similar to that of when you and conan were on "the tonight show" together, passing the torch. you know what i'm saying. >> yes, i do. >> we have lives to lead here. you've got $800 million, for god's sake, leave our shows alone. >> we actually edited that clip to take out the awkward silences between each one. and norah, "the new york times" today, bill carter who's been covering the story closely, an interesting source saying some interesting things. >> a giant here at nbc, head of sports, saying that conan, he likes him very much, but he was stubborn about changes that were
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hey, welcome to "morning joe." joe scarborough with you along with willie geist, peggy noonan, norah o'donnell and the reverend jesse jackson. we're looking right now at a picture -- live pictures out of haiti. it is the relief efforts have been frantic over the past 48 hours. reports yesterday, midday, that the faa actually had to shut down airspace over port-au-prince because there were so many relief planes circling that airport, they opened it up later on, only to get supplies on to the tarmac. and willie with, the big challenge now, doesn't seem to
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be getting the supplies and getting the relief to haiti, it's getting the supplies and the relief from the port-au-prince airport out to the people who need it the most. >> that's what we're hearing. an abundance of releft sitting idle at the airport. frankly, they can't clear the roads, they can't get it into the hands of the people who need it. it's been some 63 hours now since the earthquake struck. so we're getting down to final ticks of the clock for a lot of people who are facing a life and death situations. >> we're also getting more specific on death tolls. of course, early on, the prime minister said the death toll might be 100,000, a senator said perhaps up to 500,000. right now, the red cross estimating 40,000 to 50,000 hatians may be dead. they just don't know, though, because there are remote parts of the areas that they're not going to be getting to and digging through the rubble for quite some time. a tragedy of epic proportions. we're going to be talking about that. also on the political side, poll
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numbers, that certainly have to concern the white house. new poll out from the "national journal," of the president having a re-elect of 39%. of course, he doesn't run for three more years, but this affects races in 2010, and no race does it affect more than what's going on up in massachusetts. a state that has not elected a republican senator since 1972. the front page of the "boston herald" says it all, great scott, it looks like the republican, willie, is pulling ahead of democrat martha coakley. there would be political ramifications. as the president himself said yesterday, it would be devastating to his agenda if the republicans elected. we'll be talking about that as well. >> and we understand president clinton is going up there to campaign, president obama has put out a message. we have a great group to talk about that here. eugene washington also with us down in washington. let's get a quick look -- what did i say? >> you said washington in washington -- >> eugene robinson in washington.
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forgive me, gene. >> willie new york. >> that's how i identify everybody. first name and location. makes it easier on us. >> like a verbal gps. let's get to the top stories and get some opinion around the table here. officials say the next 24 hours or even less than that, critical now for the estimated 3 million hatians in desperate need of food, medicine, and water. in a new development breaking just this morning, the white house says cuba has agreed to allow the united states to use cuban air space to evacuate quake victims. although supplies are pouring into haiti, a total lack of infrastructure means big delays in getting the help to the people who need it most. many of the roads in port-au-prince and around there, impassable. the main sea port, we're hearing, is damaged so cargo ships can want get in either. crates piling up at the airport, as relief aid is arriving faster than it can be unloaded. and there's safety concerns as people become frustratingly
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crowded and desert. the red cross estimates as many as 50,000 people were killed. and we'll warn you before we show these next pictures, they're quite graphic. the morgue outside a hospital in port-au-prince, completely filled. bodies now being laid in piles outside. haiti's president says at least 7,000 bodies were buried in one mass grave alone. the united states continues to spearhead the international response, with president obama pledging $100 million in emergency aid. he has also enlisted the help of his predecessors, george w. wush be and bill clinton to lead the cause. >> former president bush and i talked today. he agreed to help and do what his father and i did have the tsunami. that should signal to people, this is not just an emergency for us. america is in this for the long haul. i thank the president for his commitment. it's a very personal thing to hillary, usaid, the american military, we're in this thing.
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>> special clinton was the special envoy of the president to haiti before any of this happened. and first lady michelle obama is peaking out. she taped a public service announcement on behalf of red cross yesterday. as the obama administration urges americans to donate, politics have rolled into this, unfortunately. radio host, rush limbaugh calling for the exact opposite of donation. he told his listeners not to place contributions because president obama is using the crisis to boost his political standing and now the white house is responding. >> i think in times of great crisis, there are always people that say really stupid things. i think to use the power of your pulpit to try to convince those not to help their brothers and sisters is sad. >> yeah, peggy, for years, rush limbaugh has danced up to the line and a lot of conservatives have laughed and said, well, it's just parody. yesterday with was one of those
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days where, i thought, what he said was despicable. there was no excuse. 50,000 people dead in haiti. the whole world trying to come together and rush telling americans, don't give money, this disaster is only going to help president obama. >> well, if he said that, that's kind of extraordinary. you know, this is a catastrophe that is going on in haiti. i have a feeling it's something like katrina times ten. it's going to be terrible. i have a feeling they're going to need troops in there, they're going to need making the people safe, it's not just water and medicines they need. so i think the united states has probably a pretty big job to do there. and certainly, the number of americans who have been involved in volunteer work in haiti and places like haiti, and charitable work, and charitable impulse is this great american
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thing we do. it will kick in again, it should kick in again. it's who we are. >> norah, you had some other information about this story, that you were talking about, for some other things that he had said. >> oh, well, i was just reading online too that rush limbaugh has said that they believe that the president will benefit from this politically with black people, that that's why he was responding in this way to the crisis in haiti. but i think to your point, the president has said that these people will not be foresaken or forgotten. there's 5,000 troops on the way, but the biggest logistical problem, the runway is full. they can't get anymore planes in there. >> and we've got kerry sanders right now -- hold it one second. i just got word that we've got kerry sanders for a very short period of time. let's go to the runway right now in haiti. kerry, get us up to date as to what norah was just talking about here in new york. >> reporter: it's awful noisy
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here. let me take you through what we're going through right now. behind me, we have a c-130, this one just arrived from new jersey. we have another c-130 here. this one just came in. i guess the real sense is, visually, you can just tell that the military has arrived and more are coming. off the shore, we have the "carl vinson contracts aircraft carrier. some of the seahawk helicopters based on that platform have already made their way here to the airport and are you circling the city. the aerial assessment that they're looking down are on areas where there may still be survives to direct teams from the air, as well as the people on the ground. at the same time, the 82nd airborne now has about 110 soldiers on the ground, another 110 or so are expected in later today. those will be the ferris troops that's expected that will be taking the food and water that has been brought in here and staged here out to the victims, to the people who are in those parks, the people who are sleeping on soccer fields, the
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people who want some sort of aid. i think we're going to be fortunate enough here, i see the general right over here. i'm going to see if we can get the general to come join us and just ask him a question or two. this is the general who's in charge of everything. general, thank you very much, i'm going to just ask you, give me an assessment right now, how do things look in terms of your mobilization of what you're doing with people on the ground and where's it going from here? >> well, we've got a lot of supplies coming in. we've got more on the way, and as you've seen behind us, we've got two helicopters and more from the "uss carl vinson," have the squadron executive officer from the 82nd airborne division that landed around midnight last night, that's out right now, surveilling lgs to deliver water, bottled water off the "carl vinson," so we can get these supplies to the hatian people as quickly as possible. >> reporter: general keene, when do you think that happens? when do you believe that those items get into the hands of
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these people? >> well, i know everyone is doing everything they can to try to get this as quickly as possible. we're working with the united nations in conjunction and in support of usaid, leading the u.s. government effort the commander to do just that. and this morning, obviously, because of our availability to the "carl vinson" and what it had on board, we are putting what we can in the hands of the hatian people, right now, and as we get more capability, we're going to deliver more. >> reporter: i have one last question for you, i know you're busy. when the soldiers were on the ground, when the u.s. military is in place, if there is any sort of violence, if these folks who are desperate and angry and just want something, what will the u.s. soldiers do if it's, a, directed between the community, or if it's directed at the u.s. military? what do you do if that violence begins?
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>> well, we are turning to the government of haiti and their national police to help provide security, but our soldiers are going to defend themselves. and they are doing everything they can to provide relief supplies, but they, obviously, are going to secure themselves and provide -- and it's key to have a safe and secure environment in order to allow all these supplies to get on the ground. >> reporter: general keen, thank you very much. i know the mission here is one of humanitarian, hopefully that doesn't happen. thank you very much. and we'll toss it back to you there, kerry sanders reporting live in port-au-prince. >> kerry sanders live in port-au-prince, great job down there. thanks so much. we'll be checking back in with you. reverend jackson, we trust they are doing everything they can to get this relief into the hands of the people who need it, but still, 2 1/2 days on now, it is frustrating. >> at least we're getting there quickly. and the role is now of coordination. i went to armenia when the armenia earthquake took place, and then, of course, the tsunami that took place, but those events, though tragic, seemed so
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far away. but this is home. it's our own hemisphere. there are maybe 4 million hatian-americans who have relatives and still cannot get a telephone call through. so the anxiety here and the proximity makes this a real challenge at home. >> eugene robinson in washington, what's your response? it looks like the world is moving quickly. the question is, can we get the supplies now quickly off the tarmac and to the people who need them the most? >> right, joe. it's always the last mile. the supplies can cover 1,000 miles from whatever depot they're in in the united states or in brazil or in cuba or wherever, but it's that last mile. and it's particularly difficult in this situation, where the main roads are blocked. listening to a radio report, this morning, a correspondent who was trying to drive up a hillside outside of port-au-prince to check on some
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kind of villages or suburbs up in the hills that hadn't been visited at all, and there were four rods going up and i think two or three of the roads the correspondent tried to go up were blocked with bodies. people had just brought the bodies out into the middle of the street. and the correspondent had to turn around and try another way up. and it's that sort of thing. there are still areas that really haven't been visited, have only been looked at from the air. and one hopes that our surveillance capability is able to pinpoint some places where there might still be people trapped and people who could be saved. but as willie pointed out, time is running out on the possibility of saving people from under all that rubble. >> we've got a lot more to talk about, and you're right, time is running out. time always of the essence in these type of crisis. coming up, straight ahead, we've got a ferris look inside the politico playbook. and later, we're going to switch
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gears. dueling week in reviews. first, really, sort of the counterfeit -- >> the knockoff. >> the knockoff review. >> the canal street version. >> sam tanenhaus will be here for that crappy little thing they do in "the new york times," but then we have the real week in review, which is willie's week in review. also, a potential huge shake up in massachusetts. we're going to be asking peggy noonan and gene robinson, jesse jackson, and a cast of millions what it means. but first, here is bill karins with a quick check on the forecast. >> good friday morning, joe and everybody else. some people have been asking me, what's the weather look like down in haiti? they're having great weather conditions, if you want to call it that. at least it's sunny and warm and dry. no bad weather for anyone down there in the recovery efforts. as far as our airports go, travel today, looking great across the board. all the airports are green and we're looking at a nice mild friday in new england. 44 in boston today, 49 in new york and d.c. in the low 50s. enjoy our january thaw. the problem area's down there in
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it's clear now that the outcome of these and other fights will probably rest on one vote in the united states senate. that's why what happens tuesday in massachusetts is so important. we know where martha coakley stands. i need you to put on your walking shoes again, knock on
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doors, call, e-mail, text and tweet and make sure everyone you know understands the stakes for their families, for massachusetts, and our country. >> they're calling the big guns into massachusetts. with us now, chief political correspondent for politico, mike allen. he's here once again with a look at politico's morning playbook. good morning once again, mike. >> good morning. happy friday. >> happy friday to you. the big story on politico, mass panic. we just heard the president of the united states wading into the senate race up in massachusetts. we showed a poll a little bit earlier in the show that shows scott brown, the republican, leading in one poll, anyway, by four points. what's going on up there? >> that's an incredible swing from 15 points down. so he's now in a statistical tie. but the white house now has to make a very high-stakes decision. that is, does president obama go up there this weekend? does it help? does it not? is the race gone and he doesn't want to look like he didn't close the deal. top democrats tell us that in
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races like this, it's very rare that this kind of trajectory or momentum that the republican has gets turned around. especially in a case where you don't have an ideal candidate. and the democrat, martha coakley, has had a lackluster, somewhat clumsy campaign. some democrats up there even are irked about the fact that she announced so quickly after senator kennedy passed away, just a week after. so not everyone up there is on the same page. now, obviously, there's an incredible incentive for democrats to move, but the election is coming the day after a three-day weekend. a lot of people are at their summer places. so there's not -- it's very unpredictable what -- whether the democratic machine is going to be able to -- under normal circumstances. >> mike, it is the worst of circumstances, for either side to predict what's going on, a special election in an off year in january after a three-day weekend. i would not run that type of
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campaign. it's a nightmare. but peggy, we also showed the president's re-elect right now in a "national journal" poll at 39%. do you think, this white house has always played it cool, said, don't worry about it, you guys are just overreacting. do you think it might be time for the white house to panic? >> well, panic won't help, but a prudent anxiety would be a good idea. look, they -- i think i know how they're thinking. they've had a rough first year. they may even have made a mistake about health care, spending the first year on health care. that having been said, they think, that's okay, we've got three more years. this is what i think is wrong about their thinking. they had one chance to make a first impression. they made a first impression for a year. the impression they made is, they're all looking this way, and everyone else in america is looking this way. the president's preoccupations were not the american people's
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preoccupations during a crisis. this is very bad for them. >> jesse jackson, how has the president, how have the democrats lost control of the message? >> the three big priority have been bailing out the banks, that is not going well, because they got bailed out, but they're not lending. modifications, 3.3 million homes eligible. that's really not going well. then the health care debate and then afghan. in the meantime, at the hemorrhaging of the economy, we're still losing jobs, home foreclosures increasing, church foreclosures, student loan default increasing, and the credit card scam. so people at home need some bottom-up help to offset the hemorrhaging and loss of that which is very fundamental to them. and why the importance of the bank bailout is a big deal for wall street, i heard the other day that rising tides lift all boats. wall street and harlem are on the same island. as wall street is reveling in
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wealth -- >> wall street's doing a lot better. and that is, gene, maybe that's the biggest problem. the president came out yesterday talking about taxing the banks, we want our money back. it seems a little hollow after a year. i'm not knocking the president. he went along with what bush and a lot of the republicans wanted to do on the bailouts, but jesse jackson is right. this is a president that's focused on bailouts, he's focused on afghanistan when all americans have wanted him to focus on, for the most part, the independents he's losing, jobs, jobs, jobs. >> you there, gene? in washington? >> you know, this focus now on tax the banks and get some of that money back and presumably, you know, get to people who really need it, it seems late, but i think that's a better message and perhaps will be better received. but they've got to get past
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tuesday. and it will be interesting to see what the white house decides to do and if the president is, indeed, going to jump in and try to bring martha coakley across the finish line. >> reverend jackson, on the issue of the economy, you're holding a summit. wall street economic summit. tell us what you aim to do with that. >> the aim, really, is to restructure the economy, bottom-up. so far, we've refortified the banks, we need to restructure them. the glass-steagall allowing the banks to -- that just allowed the senate to allow judges to modify a loan, the congress fell on its job. now the basic civil rights laws, title six, housing laws, community reinvestment act, eeoc contract appliance. the lawlessness has caught up with us. so now we intend to go to the major banks and demand that they
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either lend the money or lose the money. but i think president barack must use restructuring, not just jobering at them. because the restructure loans because they're making money off of foreclosures. they're making money off of the origination. they're making money off of the securitization, making money off the private mortgage insurance. they're making money off of the bailout. they're making money off of fees. these appear to be gifts to wall street. >> you've called for a second stimulus, excuse me, and do you really think the american people with stomach that, let alone afford it. >> we're either going to have a second stimulus or more of a hemorrhage. if we keep losing jobs and homes and churches and students, we must stop the hemorrhages. and so far -- that's what i'm going to talk about the roosevelt bottom-up plan. targeting jobs for the wpa. the bottom-up approach seems to
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capture people's imaginations. >> norah? >> the party is under 50%. and their going to suffer. that's why they're on the verge of losing ted kennedy's seat, in massachusetts, which is stunning. it will hurt the president's agenda in the way forward on health care and other issues. that's why the alarm bells are ringing in the democratic party. the unions are sending hundreds of people there to try to change things. but there's a disconnect. the "national journal" battleground heartland poll shows this. 60% of the americans think the bailouts have benefited the banks, not the american people. people are taking out of their pensions, their savings just to continue to get by. they think, we're spending all this money, the deficit is getting better and yet i'm dipping into my savings just to survive. there's got to be a change in america. he's still got a reservoir of goodwill, but it's taking longer than most people have thought. this white house knows that. it's like turning around a
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battleship, it's tough. >> those people represent the base of motivation. there's a difference winning and losing. >> can i tell you, we're saying the big question today is, will president obama decide to go up to massachusetts to help martha coakley this weekend. i think the real question is, if he goes up there, does he have the juice to pull her across the finish line, at this point. that's how it bad it looks. >> i'll guarantee you, somebody at the white house is saying, you put your neck out on the line for jon corzine, that didn't work out too well. >> yes, virginia. >> and virginia. i don't think he's going up to boston. >> i don't think so either. >> i think he's going to stay away. >> yeah, third time, the opposite of the charm, whatever the opposite of a charm is. >> exactly. politico's mike allen, thank you. jesse jackson, thank as well. more with our panel when we return. a little bit later, an exclusive
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welcome back to "morning joe." live pictures of washington, d.c. it's just after 8:30 on the east coast. time for a quick look at some of today's top stories. live pictures to show you here from haiti, where the first major wave of american troops is arriving as part of the united states government's earthquake relief effort. this comes amid reports this morning that looters have broken into u.n. food warehouses. other food stores in the nation's capital also have been cleaned out, although aid continues to pile up at the airport, safety concerns and a lack of pass passable roads are slowing distribution. the aid is there at the airport, it's just not in the hands of the people who need it as the clock continues to tick. and a report from the associated press says obama is considering a trial in washington for one of
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the most notorious detainees held at guantanamo bay. the suspect is accused of masterminding the 2002 bali nightclub bombing that killed 202 people. he's just one of several detainees being considered for trials in our nation's capital. and as the alleged ft. hood shooter awaits trial for mass murder, a number of his army supervisors could also be facing punishment. a pentagon inquiry faults as many as eight officers to not properly reacting to the suspect's erratic behavior in the months prior to the shooting. the alleged gunman, major nidal hasan, is accused of killing 13 people at the texas army base in november coming up next, a first look at "the new york times'" book review and book in review. by the way, if you want to help the relief effort in haiti, log on to helphaiti.msnbc.com. you'll find a full list of charitable organizations who are helping the cause. it's very easy. we'll be right back. did you rinse this morning?
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you're nobody known for pranks. what's the best prank you've ever pulled? >> i think the best prank i ever pulled is i told a guy -- i told
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a guy, five years from now, i'm going to give you my show. and then when the five years came, i gave it to him and then took it back almost instantly. >> wow. ever order anything off the tv? >> like nbc ordered your show off the tv? >> no, no. >> strippers i don't like in general, because you have this phony relationship with them for money, similar to that of when you and conan were on "the tonight show" together, passing the torch. >> right, right. >> you know what i'm saying,. >> yes, i do. >> we have lives to lead here. you've got $800 million, for god's sakes, leave our show alone. >> while i still can, i've decided to sell "the tonight show" on craigslist. that's what i'm going to do. i'm going to sell it on craigslist. i'm not sure exactly how this works, but while i'm here, this feels like the thing to do. this is a real ad that we're putting on craigslist. take a look. for sale, barely used late-night talk show. make me an offer!
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this is really out there. >> jay leno is middle america. he represents traditional american values, the things this country was built on. like killing indians because you want their land. jay leno, america's standing up for jay. >> wow, that wasn't -- i don't remember that part -- >> boy. >> in the morning in america ads, what america's about. that was brutal! look who's here. >> look who is here. >> the great counterfeiter. >> our "new york times" week in review and our book review, sam tanenhaus. great to have you with us. >> great to be back. >> and joining us from burbank, wyclef jean brother's, doing some great work down in haiti. we'll get down to you in just a moment. sam tanenhaus in new york, what are your headlines looking at the week in review? >> what we're going to do is something on haiti that's a little different from what
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you've seen. which is not a report on the disaster and suffering and poverty of haiti, which we're hearing a great deal about, and of course is very important, and our paper is covering wall to wall. what we did is go to a great american novelist, madison smart bell, who wrote three novels, a trilogy, about haiti, about the revolution in haiti in the late 18th century, or 19th century, and asked him to give our readers a sample list about haiti. he's written an introduction. you would be surprised our listeners and viewers, by some of the authors. graham green wrote a famous novel about haytitians called " comedians." madison bell is going to kind of guide you through the heritage and culture of this forsaken land. >> sam john in burbank, your brother, wyclef, perhaps the most recognizable hatian-american we have in this country.
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we know he's down there helping in the relief right now. what's he telling you? >> he's telling me that -- last night when we spoke, he said he took a crew down there to kind of get an assessment of what was going on, but he was really, really devastated. he basically spent the day helping people move dead bodies that had been piled on the street. and so he spent the day, really, i don't want to say traumatized, but completely moved by what was going on and he called it a state of emergency. so, literally, for hours, he would just go to sections of port-au-prince and help people take the bodies out of the street, because they're piling up. it's an emergency, it's a disaster, and watching it on television, you get one sense, but he talked about just being there and just seeing it. it's just a completely overwhelming experience. >> it must be, and of course, sam, that has been dominating the news of the week. let's move over to the book review.
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you're talking about reviewing a book that has dominated political headlines in washington, "game change". >> yeah, by some guys you know very well. they're on this show a lot. they did something that many of us in the literary world didn't think was possible, which is to bring out a campaign book this late that takes the country by storm. and one of the questions is how they did it, and they did it because campaign aides and workers will talk about their bosses in a way they never used to do before. and so we have a piece in the week in review that actually plays off our review in the book review by frank brunei, who used to be a great food critic, also a washington correspondent, covered the bush campaign. and he asked the question, what happened to loyalty in politics? what happened to hiring people who protect you rather than sell you out at every moment. >> peggy, that's a great question, because early on, i was charred by a comment that one of hillary's staffers made, that they didn't know if she had the character to be president of the united states after
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observinger up close. here's a woman i thought ran one of the most courageous campaign in recent memory and some staffer when they're upset is shooting their mouth off like that. what happened to loyalty in politics? >> i'm reading the book, and i'll tell you one of my thoughts, yes, the staff members were very free to give their opinions on their principles, on their candidates, but it seems to me that the authors of this book, "game change," probably spoke to the candidates themselves -- >> oh, they did. >> all right. so the candidates themselves are indiscreet. the people who worked for them are indiscreet. you say, whatever happened to loyalty? what happened to discretion. some of these things shouldn't be shared. >> i was stunned by that as well. when hillary clinton finds out not only did she lose iowa, but came in a distant third place. bill clinton is fuming.
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hillary clinton asks the question, according to one of her aides that talked to the book, maybe people don't like me. and then when she's fuming mad and has this really curt phone call with barack obama, says, see you in new hampshire, one of her top aides then says to themselves, this woman doesn't have the character to be president. presidential campaigns are pressure cookers. i've covered it, as a candidate, it is grueling. i mean -- i'm sorry, as a reporter, covering these candidates, it is grueling, they go under enormous pressure. but then people inside close to you, it's almost like a spouse, quite frankly, a member of your family talking about what happens behind the scenes. there's no doubt this is an interesting book because it sheds light on people's characters, i think some of it's relevant, but the discretion, the lack of discretion is stunning. >> i wonder if it doesn't lead -- connect to a bigger issue we're seeing in our politics too. >> oh, i think in our culture. >> the delelegitimatization of politics. even our president, jon meacham says, we have not had a
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president since the first george bush that his legitimacy wasn't challenged. >> joe wilson, you lie! >> the first george h.w. bush, though, i remember hearing the rumors started then that he was running cocaine in central america, and then pulling it out to south central l.a. you had a good friend of mine, a congresswoman, maxine, suggesting that, and that somehow he was then taking that money and funding the contras. this is a sickness that's been going on for some time, peggy. >> and you know what, we are very lucky that we didn't know this kind of gossip about dolly madison. do you know what i mean? we got to have an innocent and pure and stable view of history and those who make history, when we were all little ones, before the age of electronic gossip and wow. >> the next campaign, there's going to be signings of
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nondisclosures, mark my words. >> oh, my goodness. >> in the next political campaigns, there'll be signings of nondisclosures. >> gathered a team around her in the book to sign a nondisclosure. >> well, then the candidates themselves will have to sign it too. >> i should have started thinking about that when i started "scarborough country." >> oh, the stories. >> the books that could be written and the tapes that are still floating around out there. i make bill o'reilly's "do it live" look like a kitten. >> if only you were kidding. >> oh, i'm not kidding. >> i want to go back to sam jean in burbank. sam, talk about what you and your organization are doing and also the frustration you feel as you sit and watch on television people you know, family members, and even your own brother, who's there, being as famous and wealthy as he is, being, essentially, helpless in his own country. >> it's incredibly frustrating. that's a good way to put it. if people want to donate, you can text 501501 to us, donate $5
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and all of it will go to earthquake relief. but i think the thing we're concerned about is we're concerned about saving people's lives, we're concerned about this story becoming more than just a story while we have eyes there. when the media leaves, the country needs a lot of help with the infrastructure. but right now, we're really concerned with the efforts of saving people's lives. we're concerned with the efforts of getting people food, shelter, water. it's very, very important. it's really easy for people to do the right thing when the media is there, when cameras are there. when there's a lot of noise about what's going on. but in a couple of weeks, in a couple of months, we still want the kind of attention that we're getting today. and as an aside, to talk about the things you were talking about previously in terms of the politics of what's going on, i think the nondiscretion that goes on, i think it's sympt
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symptommatic of a problem we have in society. there's no loyalty, no sense of control over what's going on. and these books that are coming out about these politicians and what they said, off the record, on the record, i think it's pretty sad that our society's slowly degenerating into that because we've become a culture of sort of gotcha, we've become a culture of excitement, the news is sensationalized, and all of that is symptomatic of all the problems going on in this country. >> well said. i want to follow up about what norah said about the nondisclosures. what else you're going to find are candidates like ronald reagan that don't really show themselves to people that work with them. they are beloved, but distant. i have yet to talk to somebody with ronald reagan that felt like they really got that close to him. and maybe that's because reagan was smarter than every other politician. >> sam tanenhaus, thanks so
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in a week of the heaviest news imaginable, we bring you the top three most absurd stories of the week.
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>> i apologize to everybody in major league baseball. >> at number three, roid rage. >> today was the hardest day of my life. >> mark mcgwire angered baseball fans, but surprised no one, really, when he announced this week that he had used steroids during his record-breaking baseball career. >> just been holding this in. >> the hulking home run hitter was credited with bringing baseball back from the dead during the memorable 1998 season when he and sammy sosa chased and later broke the single season home run record. >> i was given this gift by the man upstairs. >> there had been whispers about mcgwire's steroid use years earlier, when the slugger began to buy separate plane tickets for his forearms and stopped small villages across the midwestern countryside. >> i think you see it. >> at number two, race issues.
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>> reid described obama as light-skinned and possessing, quote, no negro dialect. >> no negro dialect. >> negro dialect. >> negro dialect. >> negro dialect. >> what in the world is a negro dialect? that's racist. >> as president obama excused an unfortunate term used by senate majority leader, harry reid, he had no public response to a comment made by another of our nation's great leaders. >> when i said was stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid. >> a day after being quoted in a magazine as saying he is "blacker than barack obama," the normally defiant rod blagojevich went into full retreat. >> i was speaking metaphorically, obviously, i'm not blacker than president obama. >> anyone else you'd like to apologize to, blago? >> mandela, dr. king, ghandi. >> and what do you have to say for yourself about this? >> stupid, stupid, stupid. >> the number one story of the week. >> my name is conan o'brien and
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i may soon be available for children's parties. >> conan, the barbarian. >> you can do anything you want in life. yeah. yeah, unless jay leno wants to do it too. >> "tonight show" host conan o'brien refused nbc's proposal to move his show to midnight to make way for jay leno. and he refused very publicly. >> welcome to nbc, where our new slogan is "no longer just screwing up prime-time," huh? >> with partisan facebook pages sprouting up from the grassroots and americans taking sides, the conan/leno issue threatened to divide a nation that could afford no more division. >> some day, i'm going to host that show for seven months. >> i heard that, seven months, how'd he get that deal? we only got four! >> even the other guys got in on the fun this week. >> so, you know what this means, that's right, i knocked off another competitor. >> ever order anything off the tv? >> like nbc ordered your show
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off the tv? >> yeah -- no, no, no. >> listen, jay, conan and i have children, all you have to take care of is cars. >> that's right. >> i mean, we have lives to lead here. you've got $800 million. for god's sake, leave our shows alone. >> coming up next, what, if anything, did we learn today?